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>hard problem god of the gaps >orchor never really understood why zealots find so much solace in this. most likely because they do not understand the implications methinks what orchor "says" is that brain might contain some quantum process. nobody really knows if, or why, or what it does, for (You). just refuge for zealots because they have some leeway in painting on that canvas. even if, could simply be added to a "machine". >there are literally no examples of emergent "true" properties what a load of crap. non-sentient life is, for example. quite wondrous. ants, their behavior as a group. viruses. certain chemicals locked in a way start doing shit in animals. cordyceps in insects. superconductivity. holy shit >And consciousness is by definition a true fundamental property it isn't. it would benefit your belief system if it were, but it isn't, and nothing will ever change that. religion is going away. >consciousness preceeds the brain, not vice versa nonsense. there's nothing that isn't material in this world, mediated by particles and their interactions. you could say your schizophrenic condition is not material but that's merely an emergent phenomenon based on the fucked up structure of your brain. it's fucked up sentience. still emergent. >"consciousness doesn't exist since it can't be observed scientifically" it can, in yourself. why we're having this conversation. the issue is different to any other scientific issue, we cannot prove it to eachother, only observe it ourselves. you do not even understand what the core issue is here.⏱ 4d↩