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>it's the "toasters are conscious for all you know" argument again Ok, but at some point you have to move past Babby's Philosophy 101 and establish some criteria for what hypotheticals are worth taking seriously. If there's no indication that a thing is conscious, no reason for it to be conscious and no way to understand what it would even mean for that thing to be conscious, the idea that it's conscious is not worth taking seriously. Simple as. The fact that you can't "prove" anything one way or the other is only more reason to ignore such pseudointellectual slop.⏱ 4d↩