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𓀐 @uMem+3~6: >threads can't even reach bump limit anymore What went wrong?+

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𓀐 @-pqGSTLy: >>25581657 Dany should have died, Viserys should have lived Same with Sansa and Robb Idk if I am a misogynist+ 1

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𓀐 @eTkYtUfB: >>25583699 Viserys is a retard and would have been shanked within five seconds without Dany tardwrangling him around the Dothraki. Even with her tardwrangling he still got himself killed. Even assuming he survived the Dothraki through some miracle while Dany didn't, he'd have been offed in Qarth, either by the Thirteen or Varys and Illyrio who would never suffer a rival claimant to fAegon.+

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𓀐 @APDLomQL: It was not the right call.+

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𓀐 @No94uHd?: >>25583898 >It didn't cater to normies, it was so good that even normies find it memorable. That is good You’re a normie who thinks dragons are cool lol+

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𓀐 @oJdngY9p: >>25584016 Sansa is a waste of page space and her direwolf should have been named Shaggydog (if you missed it, GRRM has confirmed that Sansa was going to die and he might change that without meaningfully impacting the plot)+ 1

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𓀐 @Ug4_DFr6: >>25584024 >I liked the tv show version of Sansa so much I might change her ending in the book and keep her alive -GRRM Show Sansa sucks so bad and I think George’s tastes have gone to shit with his old age+

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𓀐 @NpqQwS8Q: >>25583864 >>25583870 They were literally homeless before. Chances are they are not a prince and princess just a couple of mad bums he picked up+ 1

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𓀐 @?xpkaFRG: >>25584345 Barristan knew Aerys and Rhaella extremely well and would have recognized if the woman claiming to be their daughter looked nothing like them. Viserys also has knowledge of Westerosi nobility that would be incredibly implausible for a random illiterate Essosi street urchin to know.+

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𓀐 @kpNCFUu_: What's the asoiaf equivalent of this?+

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𓀐 @AwoQ*AW=: >>255961 Imo, all land-dwelling humanoids are some sort of paleolithic apemen in asswife. Giants might be Gigantopithecus, Ibbenese are neanderthals, some of the Free Folk can be more basal homo sapiens and Brindlemen are classic apemen from old pulp fantasy+

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𓀐 @c9d=QH=?: >>25589064 >Wrong He's right. Fantasy as a genre IS dragons. Hobbit, Wheel of Time, ASOIAF, and on and on.+

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𓀐 @3n*47vzq: What do the Others do with the sheep Craster gives them?+

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𓀐 @-n8w?5q-: >>25595541 >Targs = Normans I’ve long entertained the possibility that the white haired Valyria phenotype came from far north Westeros originally, there would be a certain elegance to that+

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𓀐 @jm64kXvp: uhhhh+

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𓀐 @mFd4R5An: >The Old Tongue is the language spoken by the First Men of old, the current giants, and free folk tribes such as the Thenns. Only a few terms and translations are known from this language, as George R. R. Martin has not developed the actual language. >... I don't have a whole imaginary language in my desk here, the way Tolkien did ... Tolkien was a philologist, and an Oxford don, and could spend decades laboriously inventing Elvish in all its detail. I, alas, am only a hardworking SF and fantas…+

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𓀐 @JqQSAoi4: >Stannis and Renly both knew about Faegon >Their civil war was about how to deal with the reinstatment of Targ rule >Reny wanted to fight Faegon to keep Baratheon Dynasty going (not knowing that the Tyrells also know he's coming and were gonna sell him out to him) >Stannis wanted to kneel to Faegon but needs a peace offering to offer Faegon for clemency Hence the war to be King of Westeros so he has actual armies, power to hand over >The peach Renly offered (three times) was actually a coded co…+

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𓀐 @Qvqrai-5: Why would anyone want to join the Kingsguard if it means you can't fuck anymore?+

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𓀐 @2QHcaDjn: Jonsa status? So back.+

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𓀐 @xZ96kpNx: I truly believe killing Jon was his greatest mistake. His original ending was going to be a shitpost with the white walkers winning and making everything in the story pointless while they kill everyone in Westeros but the series got way too big and writing that shitpost ending is way too embarrassing now so he has to figure out how to make Jon a heroic figure like Aragorn even though the logic of resurrection in the novel means Jon will be a weird insane freak when he comes back but he didn't a…+

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𓀐 @vq_cWw4f: Is it me or was grrm's perversion heavily restrained by his editors? Not a single female PoV gets raped. It happens all around them, threatened several times, but it always misses them by a hair. It seems logically obvious that the hundred riot rapes was supposed to happen to Sansa but an editor restrained grrm, and then he had no idea what to do with sansa most of the book.+

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𓀐 @zhYqoN_e: >>25607521 >13 year old virgin girl gets wet for rapist barbarian mass murderer and willingly becomes his fuckslave and falls in love with him in a genuine non-stockholm syndrome way What did George mean by this and what did women mean by self inserting and becoming obsessed with her character+ 1

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𓀐 @R-bqAAQ6: >>25608333 Women liked the show version where she was a badass adult The thirteen year old virgin who cries and wants to commit suicide thing got most of the women I tried to get into ASOIAF angry If you look at the show the writers encourage self-insertion. Jorah is beautiful instead of a creep, some of Viserys's more sympathetic moments are left out, Dario actually looks handsome etc+

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