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𓀐 @mkWNqoX-: >AI is literally imitating the neural processes of living beings but it's probably not sentient because it doesn't have a body! No we can't prove this btw just trust us bro!

>why not, if the clump is big enough? Because it has nothing to do with how big it is. It needs to get organized into the right structures, which requires a specific kind of environment that makes it to develop in a specific way. That environment is called a body, you utter retard. And not just any body. It needs the specific kind of body those cells are genetically coded to form a brain inside, because that's what generates the specific biochemical cues they're evolved to respond to. Why is it that "people" on a "science" board don't know the bare basics of the scientific topics they're mumbling about? >What about hybrot based LLMs that use actual neurons instead of simulation of neurons, are they conscious? I don't know. What about leprechauns? Are they conscious? But even if we entertain this schizo fantasy, a "LLM" based on real neurons still has zero reason to be conscious because see above. >So to achieve AI consciousness, they just need more time to develop enough compute to have the scale and architecture similar to human brains? No, retard. For AI to be conscious, it would need, at the very least, a brain that's fundamentally structured around existing in time and space. It's a necessary condition, probably not a sufficient one, but it's enough to correctly dismiss claims of LLM "consciousness" as a meaningless mouth noises.

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𓀐 @BiFrJdK~: >It needs to get organized into the right structures Prove that these "right structures" as you define them are necessary for consciousness. Go on.+

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