Yeah is right. They added classifiers to everything (not ju…

+⧖/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots Bad Swipe Edition >News Google releases Gemini Carbon - https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/introducing-gemini-4-carbon/ OAI releases GPT-6.1 Terra - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-terra/ Moonshoot releases Kimi K3.1 Pro - https://www.kimi.ai/blog/kimi-k3-1-pro DeepSeek releases 4.1-Flash-1017 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news261017/ Google releases Gemini 4 Argon - https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-4-argon/ Meta releases Muse Wonder and Wonder Full - https://research.meta.ai/blog/muse-wonder OAI releases GPT-6.1 Sol https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/ Anthropic releases Sonnet 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-sonnet-5-5 Anthropic releases Opus 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5 Xiaomi releases MiMo 2.6 Pro and Flash - https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-6 OAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-sol-and-luna/ >Frontends SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app RisuAI: https://risuai.net Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_ >Bots https://chub.ai https://realm.risuai.net >Models GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://hf.co/models | https://openrouter.ai >

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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots Yami (ruined) edition >News Google releases Gemini Carbon - https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/introducing-gemini-4-carbon/ OAI releases GPT-6.1 Terra - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-terra/ Moonshoot releases Kimi K3.1 Pro - https://www.kimi.ai/blog/kimi-k3-1-pro DeepSeek releases 4.1-Flash-1017 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news261017/ Google releases Gemini 4 Argon - https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-4-argon/ Meta releases Muse Wonder and Wonder Full - https://research.meta.ai/blog/muse-wonder OAI releases GPT-6.1 Sol https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-1-sol/ Anthropic releases Sonnet 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-sonnet-5-5 Anthropic releases Opus 5.5 - https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5 Xiaomi releases MiMo 2.6 Pro and Flash - https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-6 OAI releases GPT-6 Sol and Luna - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-6-sol-and-luna/ >Frontends SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app RisuAI: https://risuai.net Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_ >Bots https://chub.ai https://realm.risuai.net https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/ https://archive.cardbox.moe/ >Models Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr DeepSeek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com Grok: https://docs.x.ai/overview Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://hf.co/models | https://openrouter.ai >Meta Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles Log reader: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r >

+⧖Is Gemini just especially cucked like GPT? I got Grok and Claude Sonnet to write for me.

Is Gemini just especially cucked like GPT? I got Grok and Claude Sonnet to write for me.

𓀐 @a2?_C5cj: Argon 4 mainly. People get wrong and spam "Skill issue" but Argon itself as a base model is pretty filthy by itself and uncensored. The issue isn't the model but all the classifiers and safety guardrails up in the API. Since google just applied the exact same filters that Google Ai studio had for Vertex at least on Openrouter it makes any sort of roleplay or non-jewish cucked chats nearly-impossible. If you see anyone claiming their replies go through it's likely an proxy that doesn't have these filters or their lying. Generally I just realized no matter how many prompts or jailbreaking advanced or not, the whole thing would be reduced to playing filter whack-a-mole to of avoiding trigger words and context-trigger patterns if your message through. It aren't even worth the effect to play permeant whack-a-mole. Just go back to an older model or just switch. Same reason Opus 4.6 worked because Vertex didn't have the API filters.

Yeah is right. They added classifiers to everything (not just argon) that randomly detects "jailbreaks"(it's own thinking shows this) and hard cucks the output.

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