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𓀐 @Bjs5pBrL: For Greekanons+ 1

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𓀐 @iT5pqdxP: λάχοιμί τι τερπνόν+

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𓀐 @FroKwfLy: any of you bros ever try writing a book or translating one into your TL? if so, how did it go?+

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𓀐 @buYyEF?h: Take heart. Chapter XLV is a step up in difficulty even from that, and the rape of Lucretia episode is IIRC where the book transitions to unadapted Latin. After that, you've more or less reached the peak of the book's difficulty. Some parts are more difficult than others, but the difference in difficulty is no longer due to graded writing. If the book is really excruciating, then that might be a signal to take a break and spend some time with something easier or something of special interest to…+

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𓀐 @fxy_EDgK: Ah, splendid to discover the Franks are, in fact, Trojans. Quick easy read for the whole thing. >SIGEBERT OF GEMBLOUX VITA BREVIOR SIGEBERTI REGIS > Postquam Graeci nobilem Phrygiae urbem everterunt, Aeneas et Antenor nobiles Trojanorum, cum reliquiis Trojanorum ad exteras nationes se contulerunt. Aeneam quidem ad Italiam venisse, et Romani imperii fundamenta jecisse etiam a scholaribus cantatur. At duodecim millia Trojanorum, qui Antenorem secuti sunt, Scythiae regiones pervagati, circa Meothi…+ 2

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𓀐 @67-2FEQG: >the Franks are, in fact, Trojans Actually the TRVE HISTORY that yuropoors are hiding is that Aeneas travelled through a wormhole to 1700's colonial America, assumed the name George Washington, and founded the United States.+

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𓀐 @Scxf9_mq: > circa Meothidas paludes consederunt Maeotian swamp is the Sea of Azov region. It’s where the Sauromatae and Enareis shaman(esses) lived circa 400 bc. Also though a Trojan origin for Franks is still viable though because of Marseillaise and south coast port cities which were founded by Greeks.+

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𓀐 @8L5kFPZS: How long have you been studying latin, or how long has it taken you to reach Roma Aeterna?+

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𓀐 @=njZnK9n: >tfw no dialis cap to hide my advanced norwood any day of the year+

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𓀐 @m6rzYHhV: >[44] 1 Erant in ea legione fortissimi viri, centuriones, qui primis ordinibus appropinquarent, Titus Pullo et Lucius Vorenus. 2 Hi perpetuas inter se controversias habebant, quinam anteferretur, omnibusque annis de locis summis simultatibus contendebant. 3 Ex his Pullo, cum acerrime ad munitiones pugnaretur, "Quid dubitas," inquit, " Vorene? aut quem locum tuae probandae virtutis exspectas? 4 hic dies de nostris controversiis iudicabit." Haec cum dixisset, procedit extra munitiones quaque pars…+

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𓀐 @9fJRxv6c: iacio+ 2

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𓀐 @zvH~b~Pw: rerollan I've had the opposite experience with Livy but I read a lot of Caesar first and I think the carryover is helping a lot.+

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𓀐 @N=+reMBr: quamcumque detur aleam legendarum mihi sequar+

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𓀐 @fxy_EDgK: Ah, splendid to discover the Franks are, in fact, Trojans. Quick easy read for the whole thing. >SIGEBERT OF GEMBLOUX VITA BREVIOR SIGEBERTI REGIS > Postquam Graeci nobilem Phrygiae urbem everterunt, Aeneas et Antenor nobiles Trojanorum, cum reliquiis Trojanorum ad exteras nationes se contulerunt. Aeneam quidem ad Italiam venisse, et Romani imperii fundamenta jecisse etiam a scholaribus cantatur. At duodecim millia Trojanorum, qui Antenorem secuti sunt, Scythiae regiones pervagati, circa Meothidas paludes consederunt, et ab Antenore Antenoridae vocati sunt. Hinc et in Virgilio legitur: >Antenor potuit mediis elapsus Achivis, >Illyricos penetrare sinus, atque intima tutus >Regna Liburnorum, et fontem superare Timavi.+

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𓀐 @N7JwYpC*: Well, you don’t have to make anything ridiculous like that up. It’s enough to state the verifiable historical truth that Brutus of Troy settled Britain, thus that the founding stock of America was British (Trojan). However there was one American who was secretly a time traveler from ancient greece but he was a mild-mannered pro slavery advocate, confederate veteran, and classics professor by the name of Basil L. Gildersleeve who singlehandedly made American classics a thing.+

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𓀐 @m6rzYHhV: >[44] 1 Erant in ea legione fortissimi viri, centuriones, qui primis ordinibus appropinquarent, Titus Pullo et Lucius Vorenus. 2 Hi perpetuas inter se controversias habebant, quinam anteferretur, omnibusque annis de locis summis simultatibus contendebant. 3 Ex his Pullo, cum acerrime ad munitiones pugnaretur, "Quid dubitas," inquit, " Vorene? aut quem locum tuae probandae virtutis exspectas? 4 hic dies de nostris controversiis iudicabit." Haec cum dixisset, procedit extra munitiones quaque pars hostium confertissima est visa irrumpit. 5 Ne Vorenus quidem tum sese vallo continet, sed omnium veritus existimationem subsequitur. 6 Mediocri spatio relicto Pullo pilum in hostes immittit atque unum ex multitudine procurrentem traicit; quo percusso et exanimato hunc scutis protegunt, in hostem tela universi coniciunt neque dant regrediendi facultatem. 7 Transfigitur scutum Pulloni et verutum in balteo defigitur. 8 Avertit hic casus vaginam et gladium educere conanti dextram moratur manum, impeditumque hostes circumsistunt. 9 Succurrit inimicus illi Vorenus et laboranti subvenit. 10 Ad hunc se confestim a Pullone omnis multitudo convertit: 11 illum veruto arbitrantur occisum. Gladio comminus rem gerit Vorenus atque uno interfecto reliquos paulum propellit; 12 dum cupidius instat, in locum deiectus inferiorem concidit. Huic rursus circumvento fert subsidium Pullo, 13 atque ambo incolumes compluribus interfectis summa cum laude sese intra munitiones recipiunt. 14 Sic fortuna in contentione et certamine utrumque versavit, ut alter alteri inimicus auxilio salutique esset, neque diiudicari posset, uter utri virtute anteferendus videretur. Kino+

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𓀐 @jxivWXcm: Saluete, omnes! Valetene? Faciles peliculas in Tutubo expectare volo sed bonos Tutubatores nescio. Qui boni Tubatores mihi expectando?+ 1

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𓀐 @7KctHmPA: I've only been studying for a week but I like this guy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdGXknMxfVI+

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𓀐 @EqyaPDJE: why are stuff like plays, historiography and philosophy considered literature?+ 2

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𓀐 @dXY*ze~*: They're not. Only novels are literature properly speaking. Those other genres are glorified self-help slop for the masses.+ 1

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𓀐 @HHvrVMC=: arent there like 4-5 novels in greek and just the satyricon and the golden ass in latin? also shouldn't poetry be included? i just find it weird that anything else is included+

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𓀐 @vRKUWWmX: There's a church not far from me that has latin mass every single day. Should I go? Is there an outline of how it goes so I can study beforehand and be prepared?+

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𓀐 @tTPQcMtV: thanks guys, I'm catholic and commulgated (is that how you say it in english?), I just haven't been to mass in a while but I know my way around. I'll just watch initially and then participate as I see fit. I can generally remember most parts in my own language, it will be fun hearing them in Latin.+

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𓀐 @aRci4~FF: >Filius natus-est Abrahamo, qui vocavit eum Isaacum >Deus, tentans fidem Abrahami, dixit ei: >"Abrahame, tolle filium tuum unicum, quem amas, et immole eum mihi" >Adrahamus non dubitavit parere Deo >Imposuit ligna Isaaco; ipse vero portabat ignem et gladium >Isaacus dixit patri: "Mi pater, ecce ligna et ignis; sed ubinam est hostia immolanda?" >"Deus sibi providebit hostiam, fili mi" >Ahrahamus exstruxit aram, disposuit ligna, allignavit Isaacum super struem lignorum, deinde arripuit gladium >Tum angelus clamavit de caelo: >"Abrahame, contine manum tuam, ne noceas puero" >Abrahamus dixit: "lol wut, I already made it this far, Imma kill dis lil' nigga now" what a world we'd be living in...+

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𓀐 @EKqVXsKc: Best book on learning Ancient Greek?+

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𓀐 @R7wmm=Bq: is anybody reading the greek books from the Bible in their original greek? I remember seeing some analyses where they showed how "Logos" had been very wrongly translated into latin, and all the theological consequences that entailed.+

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𓀐 @sZdFgMVY: would you look at the time Easy Look at that big mountain! My cousin, although fat, runs pretty fast. Why are there ducks swimming in my own pond? Medium If he had asked nicely I wouldn't have yelled at him! Although destitute of his inheritance, he managed to become rich. Go find the fish market's overseer and report to him that according to a recent report the city's fishing fleet has been wrecked by a sudden violent storm. Hard Write a short paragraph/story in second person about a dog trying to find his way home.+

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𓀐 @3g85ND4B: Use anki on graded readers+

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𓀐 @kWkqcY8J: Sorry, I seem to have oversimplified things when talking about like a 1000 year migration history. For the record, “Roman Anatolians” are borderline the same people as ancient Greeks genetically speaking and most Greek ancestry was Anatolian to begin with. To my limited understanding, if anything Greeks are less “eastern” and more “northern” now due to medieval Slav ancestry. And what “Ottoman era ‘Turkish’” even means, I have no clue, since I figure by the ottoman era the Turks are largely anatolian as well.+

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𓀐 @Yw*_NoZk: >Nosses iocosae dulce cum sacrum Florae >Festosque lusus et licentiam volgi, >Cur in theatrum, Cato severe, venisti? >An ideo tantum veneras, ut exires? What's the deal with the first part of the last verse? Is it normal to be flipped like that?+ 1

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𓀐 @E+Yczbe2: nvm, it's probably a case of brevis brevians+

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𓀐 @Xd7dg-Wn: It doesn't have to be a case of "brevis brevians" or "iambic shortening." It could just be the/a natural way to pronounce the word. The Wikipedia article on brevis brevians mentions the pronunciation avĕ rather than avē. >According to Quintilian, avĕ with short -e was the usual pronunciation in his day, the long form being used only by pedantic people. So who's to say that ideŏ isn't a normal pronunciation? If the o is not short, what scansion do you propose? I don't see any better solution than .+

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𓀐 @ZKc~q+k4: Can I ask what's going on here without getting autistic screeching for an aswer? >Martialis Epigrammata 3.64 >Sirenas hilarem navigantium poenam+

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𓀐 @_*qN*ZW4: risus+

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𓀐 @jUMncj7e: New kino just dropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz310VFlxvo Previous kinographic masterkino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OyhWKTmJBo+

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𓀐 @LBXMHMMn: how can you all argue about the same gay shit year after year absolutely abysmal gen+

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𓀐 @_vA7bUu7: Calydonii apri editio >τὸ πρότερον νῆμα· >Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί· https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw >Mέγα τὸ ANE· https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg >Work in progress FAQ https://rentry dot co/n8nrko All Classical languages are welcome.+ 15

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𓀐 @CtJY~wGR: for Hellenanons+

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𓀐 @jG93Sxv_: I'm going to start Athenaze chapter 2 tonight. Also, any Latin teachers here? How would you work in some conversational Latin for a third year G-T based course? Some of my students have expressed interest but I'm not sure what I would do beyond very basic things like introducing oneself. In addition, I've read a few papers talking about how CI-based courses are better but next to nothing about how such courses are implemented, particularly for classical languages. Can anyone rec any resources on that front? Thanks.+ 1

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𓀐 @=9xh64jU: >Thanks you're welcome+

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𓀐 @WuN8uoLH: I mean >bene ventus es sorrus sum pro mistaccio+

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𓀐 @c*VJTrQ6: iacio misc table time since OP dubs+

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𓀐 @FFuM7mPA: Censorinus >super qua re Empedoclis disputata ratio talis profertur: si par calor in parentum seminibus fuit, patri similem marem procreari; si frigus, feminam matri similem. Quodsi patris calidius erit et frigidius matris, puerum fore, qui matris vultus repraesentet; at si calidius matris, patris autem fuerit frigidius, puellam futuram, quae patris reddat similitudinem. Anaxagoras autem eius parentis faciem referre liberos iudicavit, qui seminis amplius contulisset. Ceterum Parmenidis sententia est, cum dexterae partes semina dederint, tunc filios esse patri consimiles, cum laevae, tunc matri. Funny.+ 1

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𓀐 @PPNwGQen: Anaxagoras is definitely one of my favorite ancients. He held that the elements that make men (hair particles, skin particles, blood, etc) exist within all things and that they just constantly get recombined in different ways. Example, when you eat bread the physical pieces of hair, skin, whatever go to your stomach and are sorted out to their places. >> Anaxagoras autem eius parentis faciem referre liberos iudicavit, qui seminis amplius contulisset. This would naturally be the end result of his biology theory. Lmao He isn’t even that wrong. You can change “hair particles” to potassium, sodium, etc. and his basic theory is technically correct.+

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𓀐 @3gj8uJaJ: >Calydonii apri why were ancient people so scared of a hecking piglet? I get shit like the lion from nemea, maybe a wolf, but a pig?+ 3

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𓀐 @PirCB5gJ: >piglet he was huge and boars can be very dangerous fella+ 2

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𓀐 @qppk*x2s: what the hell, it looks like a bull+ 1

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𓀐 @8?_TwV5S: Hogs get much larger and hairier when they go feral so imagine how terrifying a proper ancient european boar could have been+

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𓀐 @-cQzgi2k: Does anyone know of any good bookstores that carry Latin books in the Toronto area? I'm here on a trip for a few days.+

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𓀐 @fp6pjz-7: As a matter of fact, I wanted to read the Kalevala regardless and I was looking into which translation was best--that is how I stumbled onto Pekkanen's translation to begin with. At any rate, in the introduction he starts by citing scholarly articles on the Kalevala, and then proceeds to describe Finnish meter and why he believes that Latin matches it well--which is exactly the type of autism I like in a translator. The actual poem is kicking my butt though. The syntax is simple, but the vocabulary is pretty broad (or at least broader than what I am used to), so for now I am leaving it aside. It reads quite nicely nonetheless, do if any anon wants to read it I can wholeheartedly recommended it. The link is in my original post.+ 1

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𓀐 @k7UWt2TS: just from looking up the author and skimming the preface alone this looks like a pretty amazing work certainly not from an amateur in the matter or a rushed thing, I'd be surprised if the Latin isn't also top notch tbqh, kinda cool actually not only that, but apparently this guy is one of the figures behind the famed radio program Nuntii Latinii which used to transmit news in Latin over Finnish radio+

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𓀐 @9yQ8n8hd: >hic, ubi nunc fora sunt, lintres errare videres, >quaque iacent valles, Maxime Circe, tuae. the romans must've been like woaahhh, so HERE Romulus, where the Circus Maximus is, was?+

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